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Full Text of Microsoft Documents

Posted by Harry McCracken | Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:57 AM PT

The Web is abuzz over a Bill Gates e-mail and a memo from Microsoft CTO Ray Ozzie about the emerging service-based Web and the threats and challenges it presents for Microsoft. Dave Winer has what seems to be the full text of both documents.

Interesting stuff on what's clearly one of the major inflection points in technology history...
Comments (12)

I give it 5 more seconds before some mac-aholic calls Gates the anti-christ and babbles on about how all technology was stolen from them, etc, etc, etc......4....3....2

Anonymous
November 10, 2005
6:54 AM PT

IT WAS SOLEN FROM US!!!


j/k:)

Jay
November 10, 2005
10:22 AM PT

So what....,

Percy Davis Jr.
November 10, 2005
11:18 AM PT

didn't Al Gore invent the Mac, right after the internet?

Tim
November 10, 2005
7:06 PM PT

The article did give Apple credit, and the lists of what M$ wanted to do seemed very similar to what Apple is already doing... Just sayin *returns to running 10 apps seamlessly on his iMac* Gates is just a bit behind the times, thats all.

Cage Fighter Pretend
November 11, 2005
4:09 PM PT

its just too bad Apple costs 2x as much as a PC and runs only 1/100th of the stuff.

I guess if you're old and dont like video games, Macs are a good choice tho. :p

redhand
November 11, 2005
8:57 PM PT

Is everyone forgetting that Apple raped Xerox to get gui?

David Myerscough
November 17, 2005
7:08 AM PT

I think you all need more to do

pete
November 17, 2005
11:55 AM PT

Apple has always intigrated new technologies first. They had USB, then Firewire ports two years before any Windows PC had them. WiFi and BlueTooth built in about two years before Windows had drivers for them. And now 64-bit native hardware, OS and apps are going to have been on Apples a year and a half before Windows has it.

I'd like to see a Windows machine do something a Mac can't do. Aside from being out of date.

And Apples don't cost 2x what PCs do. Put everything in a G5 into a PC, and you come out with a slight price advantage with a PC. But you have more hardware confilcts with a Windows PC.

I've been an IT Engineer for 20 years, making a living on UNIX and Windows systems. Always came home to a Mac. Which brings up my favorite thing about Windwos, it keeps me in a job fixing things!

BenB
December 02, 2005
6:45 AM PT

Apple has always intigrated new technologies first. They had USB, then Firewire ports two years before any Windows PC had them. WiFi and BlueTooth built in about two years before Windows had drivers for them. And now 64-bit native hardware, OS and apps are going to have been on Apples a year and a half before Windows has it.

I'd like to see a Windows machine do something a Mac can't do. Aside from being out of date.

And Apples don't cost 2x what PCs do. Put everything in a G5 into a PC, and you come out with a slight price advantage with a PC. But you have more hardware confilcts with a Windows PC.

As for Apple raping Xerox to get the desktop GUI and a mouse? Well, no, Xerox decided it didn't want to fool with it and gave it up willingly, idiot! There was no rape involved! Windows always come out with new features after Macs had them for some time. That's just a fact.

I've been an IT Engineer for 20 years, making a living on UNIX and Windows systems. But I always came home to a Mac. After fixing other people's machines, I didn't want to come home and fix my own! Which brings up my favorite thing about Windwos, it keeps me in a job fixing things!

And now that Macs are UNIX, if you take all the UNIX market base and compare it to Windows, it's about 50/50. Remember, the overwhleming majority of servers running the Internet are UNIX.

BenB
December 02, 2005
6:49 AM PT

If Mac computers WEREN"T a step ahead then I'de be worried. They always will have some of the newest tech because it's an OS and hardware that's made all by one company. So comparing one specific company(mac) to a zillion companies("windows users") just isn't fair. I just hate all those mac guys out there who worship the white boxes. Both systems have their ups and downs.
Windows=Diversity/Choice
Mac=ease of use/simplicity

David
February 15, 2006
8:13 PM PT

People! Macs are great for Audio, Video or Other demanding Mulimedia Applications, thats why they cost so much, they are not toys they have very serios uses but to all those loyal die hard apple nuts, grow up we know the pros and cons of your gear, same again with the timeless battle between intel and amd, yes intel is fater in general office utils, and amd in games, mind you when was the last time you got excited by an office app, so you have an intel at work and AMD at home and if you have some die hard work to do then use an apple, and of course they steal Ideas offf of each other thats just a case of monkey see monkey bash you over the head with rock and steal you banana, well thats life! We are all a little guilty of defending our favourite brand of the same thing, thats what religion is all about, as I said all those brands of machines have things they excell at now if you want to talk OS well then yes Apple did it first Bill Gates of Hell stole what he could blah blah apple is no saint either, Bill just stiched together dung and put a pretty sticker on it, gave it away for naught and got most of us addicted on it, well who has more money than the rest of the major players? This ones a no brainer

ROM
April 12, 2006
5:38 PM PT