E3: Nintendo To Bring Back The Zapper?

I thought the whole point of the Wii controller was that you didn't need a bunch of adaptors and other peripherals......otherwise, there's ABSOLUTELY nothing innovative about it.

Nintendo, where their motto is "we can't make a real system, so we bank on gimmicks and nostalgia!"

Hey I remember Duck Hunt! I used to play that game, too! Nintendo should make a came-back for those games like Super Mario Brothers with the sounds and electronic music synthesizer from NES! I mean...not those songs from Super Mario All Stars for SNES!!! That would be cool!!!!!! I can't wait to feel young again, playing those games back on the late 1980s to early 1990s...

ladiesman, you were thoroughly refuted on the "gimmick" claim on another blog post. Try taking your inflammatory and unsubstantiated remarks elsewhere, perhaps on a less mature site.

I can't wait for the gimmicks and nostalgia! I think it is awesome to be able to play all my old games. I remember all the cool s**t Ninetendo had the the NES when I was a kid. I am glad to see they are going to make some innovative controllers again.

I don't recall anything I said ever being "refuted". People disagreed, but nobody any gave any compelling arguements outright disproving me. Fact is, this technology has exist for a very long time, and has been a part of gaming for a very long time. Nintendo did not design a controller for their system; they designed a system based around their controller, and I can't even begin to describe how bad that is. Nintendo simply can't compete by designing a good system, so they have use ploys to get you to buy it. TWO SCREENS!!! CRAZY CONTROLLER!!! I'm more interested on a system based on it's merits, not it's peripherals.

The nostalgia thing isn't too bad; the only reason I will get a Wii is FOR some of the Nintendo classic stuff. A new Super Mario game and all that. Not too crazy about the actual old games available. I can go to a garage sale, and get an NES with a bunch of games for ten bucks. I still have my NES, and i'll say they just don't make stuff like they used to. I've been through 3 PS2's.....my original NES is still alive and kicking like new (with all the quirks it always had....lego wedged in the side of the bay to make the games fit right circa 1988....)

The Wii isn't a BAD idea, i'll probably get one if it's as cheap as they claim it will be, i'm just more annoyed of them touting it as some great innovation when there really is none. I'm even MORE annoyed at people beleiving them. Nintendo, tell it like it is. It's an inexpensive system designed for casual gamers. It's not the second coming of Christ. It's not the greatest thing since sliced bread. It's not going to revolutionize the gaming industry. It's an inexpensive system aimed at casual gamers. There's nothing wrong with that, just stop being an evil Japanese mega corporation and admit it. They'd have much more respect from me that way.

Ok ladiesman,
How can you be that critical about something no one has ever thone? maybe the technology was there but no one used it.
Sony and Microsoft are making the same old thing, you grab a controler and your goning to drive, shoot, jump, etc. Same old thing. Even Sony tryed to do something alike as nintendo did. I bet they had a diferent design on the remote but when they saw nintendos controler they went back to the old design so they could put tilt on it.
Also, you are talking about some evil corporation, !!!WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!Your the tipe of person that wants to start debate about something that doesnt exist.
Nintendo is a small company compared to sony and microsoft, it solely depens on gaming software, not electronics and CPU software .
They are gambling everithing for something diferent, do you think they couldnt have went for some video card that pumps out amazing graphics?, ofcourse they could, but they went for a diferent aproach, fun, fun, fun.
Neither Sony nor Microsoft have any merits for that matter, they just copied something that would make them a lot of money.

Before you reply Armando, learn how to spell first.

I'm with you ladiesman.

I'm confused, ladiesman.
Who ever said that the main innovation of the Wii controller was the elimination of adapters and peripherals?
When it was first announced, it included a slot for plugging in other peripherals.
The main innovation of the Wii controller is the broadening of control options.

sony makes many things, microsoft, will soon be making cars, at least nintendo is doing what it has always done, keep it real, but with a new twist.

ladiesman, you said:

"I thought the whole point of the Wii controller was that you didn't need a bunch of adaptors and other peripherals"

Then you've thought wrong. The whole purpose of the Wii controller is to take the player-game interface in bold new directions without adding cost. (Something that Sony and Microsoft arent too keen on doing, at least in this generation.)

You state:

"Nintendo did not design a controller for their system; they designed a system based around their controller, and I can't even begin to describe how bad that is. "

...Yeah, because its not a bad idea...Its a fantastically good idea. While Sony and MS are fixating on HD graphics, Nintendo is reminding us that games dont have to be played at 60fps on a 1080p TV to be tons of fun. Graphics are but a piece in the puzzle of game-immersion. What also matters (even moreso infact) is how you interact with the game. The more real that is, the easier it is to suspend your disbelief. Sony and MS havent brought us anything new in that realm. Nintendo has.

You say:

"i'm (sic) just more annoyed of them touting it as some great innovation when there really is none."

Dig your head out of the sand and open your eyes. What do you see MS and Sony doing? Innovating? Hardly. Now look at Nintendo. Look at the position-aware controller and explain to me how that ISNT innovative in comparison. And dont spout off some arrogant, "I cant even begin to explain" because thats entirely correct, you cant explain, becuase you have no argument. It is a much bolder step toward a higher level of game interaction than other console-developers are willing to take at this point.

I dont think anyone is saying its the greatest thing since sliced bread, or the second coming of Christ...And if they are, they're trying to point out that other consoles just really arent that interesting in comparison. Same-old with updated graphics. Whoop-de-doo.

I hate life. I wish they would just re-release NES so you could all shut up. At least I'd be happy.

the simple fact that only about 10%-15% of homes within America (most likely less in places like Japan or Europe) have any kind of TV approaching high def (the price is still WAY to high) means that unless you have the money, the games will look the same crappy old way on your tv as the old consoles did. So why spend an extra $400 on a system that will 1) not give me the higher graphics unless I spend the money on the damn TV instead of the games, and 2) try to convince me of a new digital media format when all I want to do is play games I can get into. As an RPG/Action/Adventure fanatic, to immerse myself in a game is the best thing I could ask. I can actually pump fake to pass a football instead of pressing "A" -- if this doesn't give you thrills, then you are only playing the game for graphics... and if I wanted graphics and only high def graphics, well, I could always just watch my DVD of Shrek.

The fact is if a game is fun it is fun, and that is what Nintendo is focusing on...making games fun. Graphic quality usually loses its charm after a half-hour or so, even less if the game itself isn't very good. Zelda, Metroid, Mario, etc.? I'll take those over the best Sony or Microsoft games, graphics or not. It's silly to put down a system you haven't tried yet and isn't even out yet, but the long lines and smiling faces after playing Wii at E3 have me intrigued. If the graphics aren't as good, that will be a little disappointing, but if the system is that much cheaper and the games really are as great as in the past (Zelda, etc.), then there is nothing to complain about and everything to be excited about.

Ladiesman must be the taker with his lifepartner hence the name Ladiesman. Stick to what you know best and that is not video game knowledge but the command from your lifepartner BOHICA!

I've bought most systems in the past, I own all three of the previous gen systems, and I have to admit its the Wii that has me the most interested. This probably has a lot to do with the fact that i'm becoming bored with the current state of gaming. Back in the early ninties the best looking game was Myst... and it sucked! To be honest its never been about realism, its about immersion and i'm hoping that a new control method will lend to that feeling of immersion.

Don't even bother arguing with ladiesman! He would compain if Nintendo released the best system ever! He is trying to make it into a bad system. Sure, it doesn't have the best graphics ever, but still it is different. I, for one, am sick of the same old thing! Press button compared to swinging the controller like an actual sword; I will take the new controller thank you. Also, everyone needs to remember that the system isn't even released yet! We won't know for sure how good it is until we try it! remember playing = believing

I dunno apparently nintendo owned this E3 check out the IGN impressions where the editors state which company had the best showing almost all said nintendo even the ones who didnt work at the nintendo section at IGN. Sony has a pretty powerful console but um so was the PSP and the DS out sold it ten fold i wonder why because the games were the best and if nintendo can make games that take advantage of the Wii like they did the DS they have a good chance of having a better run then they did with the Gamecube. Also price is a factor in this race the 360 is average priced im ok with 500.00 for a system with the hard-drive. but come on 700.00 thats just silly and my prices are higher because im in canada. Sony needs to stop their little but the graphics are pretty so buy it and use our blu ray thingy whatever that is. sony needs to let go of their old ideals and quit hiding behind graphics and try to change console gaming like microsoft and nintendo. Microsoft has totally revolutionized on-line community gaming yea sony has on-line but its nothing special. Over all sony had the worst showing this year.

I went to E3 and played the Wii and I gotta say I was very impressed.

The controler felt so natural in my hand and it was supper responsive. How you held it and moved it made a big diffrence in game play (especally in the sports games).

Nintendo spent all its time and energy developing a new controler and style of gaming and I think it will pay off.

The ps3 controler, while haveing motion control, is nowhere near as nice as the wii controler. I can't wait to get my hands on my own wii.

Hey aldawgz I was very surprised that you would post something on my spelling and not on my comments.
Truth is you understood what I said and that?s what?s important in the end. However, if its really that important to you here you go PENDEJO. A revised version of my comment.
Ok ladiesman,
How can you be that critical about something no one has ever done? maybe the technology was there but no one used it.
Sony and Microsoft are making the same old thing; you grab a controller and your going to drive, shoot, jump, etc. Same old thing. Even Sony tried to do something alike as Nintendo did. I bet they had a different design on the remote but when they saw Nintendo?s controller they went back to the old design so they could put tilt on it.
Also, you are talking about some evil corporation, !!!WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?! You?re the type of person that wants to start debate about something that doesn?t exist.
Nintendo is a small company compared to Sony and Microsoft, it solely depends on gaming software, not electronics and CPU software.
They are gambling everything for something different, do you think they couldn?t have went for some video card that pumps out amazing graphics?, of course they could, but they went for a different approach, fun, fun, fun.
Neither Sony nor Microsoft have any merits for that matter, they just copied something that would make them a lot of money.
(would you be able to write any better than me if you would be trying to write Spanish?, I really don?t think so. I also don?t think you would care, but whatever)

History shows that when in a console war, the more powerful, better looking console doesn't sell more than it's competition...

2600 Vs. Intellivision - 2600 sold better
NES Vs. Master System - NES sold better
Genesis Vs. SNES - Genesis sold better
Playstation Vs. N64 - Playstation sold better
PS2 Vs. XBOX - PS2 sold better

Look at the NEO GEO. It totally blew away it's competition and was literally the same as bringing the arcade home. It bombed, but it has a great cult following. I just think history will repeat itself, and I think it'll be an intersting holiday season for the three companies.

actually, the zapper looks like not as much as another prepherial as a way to combine the nunchuk and the wii-mote... i mean, if you look, the wii-mote just goes right into it, so, i guess instead of a nunchuk you could buy this instead... i could be wrong, but it seems like a fairly good idea... and plus, remember, this is just a model. it doesn't mean this is really gonna happen... but, if it happens, people who have the idea of OH! SOMETHING COOL AND NEW! will buy it. or, small children who like to shoot things and will grow up to kill me and you. yay.

oh, and, i would really like to play a hack & slash and not press the same button over and over and over and maybe actually feel like i'm playing something. that would be great. and, plus, the graphics are still better that the original xbox that had/has pretty great graphics to begin with. i, though, have a 32" hd tv and would LOVE to play games that actually bring out the qualtity in my tv, but still both of the other consoles are way too expensive for my wallet, but i actually WANT to play the wii on my tv. i mean, think about it: everyone STILL plays games like mario 64, even the original mario, why? because it's fun. it did something that no other games had done before in a really great way, and that's what i'm looking for. not a pricey system that makes games and the console look prettier than my old xbox. and the nintendo wii will STILL do both of those without the huge pricetag, AND an innovative way to play those games. and, if you read all that in one sitting, congrats. hehe.

I personally think graphics are fine the way they are. Nicer is okay, but sooner or later there's going to be a limit reached as to how pretty graphics can get. Then it'll be all about the gameplay. I'm not hating but Sony and Microsoft are just releasing stronger versions of their past systems. At least Nintendo is trying to do something different. It's likely to turn out like this: People are going to want a) X360 and Wii or b) PS3 and Wii, but not likely c) X360 and PS3 because they're pretty much the same thing. So, most folks are going to want to try the new, different Wii.

And by the way, for those who think Nintendo doesn't know what they're doing, you're probably the same folks who thought a handheld with two screens, limited 3D capabilities and no analog stick was a dumb idea...and now that system, the Nintendo DS, is the fastest selling system in the world. Go figure.

LadiesMan Is WRONG. Because Now that the Wii is out, I've gotten a chance to play EXCITE TRUCK and it actually felt like i was driving, without the cost of repairs to my car, the cost of a body cast, and hospitalization. Which shows that, graphics aside, the Wii will triumph despite predictions from game companies. (Yep, this is me full on agreeing with Dualmask). I own a DS too and although i only have two games for it(For those of you who are wondering, Metroid Prime: Hunters, and New Super Mario Bros.), I like Nintendo because they try. PSP=low battery,short storylines. DS= better battery, better games, more interaction with the system, long games, fun games. Nintendo tried to get more people into it by increasing playability with childish, simple-yet-fun, games. All Sony tried to do was show us that small games in the weirdest shape of all (Ironically referred to as: Universal Media Discs) would make a graphically pleasing game that really had no play value.

I mean, I know I'm late in this an all, but I'm thoroughly impressed with whomever above brought the word 'refute' into the conversation. That guy, plus 'EH' - thoroughly dismiss 'ladies'man's ridiculous and unusubstantiated opinion that the Wii is a step in the WRONG direction. At the end of the day, we all knew the 360 would be like it is, because at the end of the day when the original xbox came out all the mags and rags did were make jokes on how much like a pc it was. As for Sony, they are trying very very hard to implement their own media format into into the mainstream by forcing everyone to adapt. I mean, it's smart in terms of a business sense, but it's not as if people are sick of DVDs or anything, so there's no demand.

Whereas Nintendo, who are the only pioneer of the field that are still in business and doing striving for success instead of sales. Just as the N64 swept me up, the Wii is bound to do the same...why?
'Cause it's going above and beyond the status quo