Internet Explorer 7: New Public Beta

I am using Windows XP SP2 (Chinese). I would appreciate it if you could let me know whether the latest public IE 7 beta in ENGLISH could be installed into my Chinese XP SP2. (I understand that presently IE 7 is also available in other languages outside the USA, e.g. in Japanese, but NOT yet in Chinese.)

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Will the IE 7 edition of Explorer work with 98SE?

OMG...get off of Windows 98SE! Hello, it's 2006...XP SP2 is the standard OS and Vista is only months away.

Doesn't this look exactly the same as apple's safari? yet another copy of mac os x

Can IE 7 be used on linux

"using Windows XP Service pack 2, XP 64-bit, or Server 2003 Service Pack 1, according to Redmond"

it's called reading comprehension.

i look forward to being able to blog, podcast, visit ajax sites and browse the web 2.0 with this.

win 98SE .. LOLZ!

Someone please tell me why anyone would use this instead of Firefox . . .

LOL I have IE 7 beta and it's really a disappointing copy of opera with a touch of Firefox

I remember when I switched from Firefox ver 0.9 to beta 1.5 I was really mesmerised but no matter how much microsoft wants people to return to it's software hell will freeze before I am dumb enough to go back to it
If you look at securnia.com advisory list you will see that 29 potentially dangerous security lapses in IE ver 6 have yet to be fixed..
Opera has none and Firefox has 2-3

Hey _nikita._ _Read_ _every_ _word_ _that_ _have_ _been_ _said_ _in_ _the_ _article_!!!!!!

Need me say more than this??? Huh??? Need me say more??????

Hey you MS haters..............GET A LIFE!

FireFox For LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!! IE SUCKS!

From the screenshots its look they have tried best to make IE look like Firefox.
Poor fellas can't make it work like it ! IE will suck forever !

The screenshot looks like Netscape, not Firefox. I'll be glad when they release it. My company only uses MS products and IT won't let me download Firefox. At home I use Mozilla or Apple products, and I can't stand IE 6 and it's lack of tabbed browsing. It drives me nuts having to open new windows instead of tab. Hurry Microsoft Hurry.

IE has a ton of security holes because it's the most used browser in the world. Who on earth would write a hack for OPERA, for crissakes?! So you can infect the 3 people that use it? Why would they bother?

I'd like to see 90% of these haters actually attempt to write a browser. If you're one of the 10%, feel free to complain about anything you want, but the other 90% should just get on a browser they like and stop flaming Microsoft (like Gates actually cares about what you think as he flies over you at Mach 2 on his way to Vienna...)

First of all...ho-hum. Another IE7 beta. I find myself remarkably unimpressed. I think Microsoft has simply waited too long to do anything significant with IE

Second: Sam, It does NOT look like Safari, and even if it did, so what? Don't you think people are getting tired of Mac enthusiasts "claiming" every halfway good thing Microsoft does to be no more than a ripoff of Apple technology? Even if it's true, the market share numbers indicate strongly that nobody cares! Let it go. Move on. That dog just won't hunt anymore.

We have to hope that Firefox and Opra keep putting out good programs. Thats the only way to keep Microsoft working on updating Internet explorer. COMPETITION!!!!!

Hey, if you can't install Firefox on the computer, get PortableFirefox

Let's be fair. The new IE 6 is just like Firefox but two years late and with a lot more bugs. We can always count on MS for late, second rate copies of software others write. They don't inovate, they copy and spend enough marketing dollars to make you think they are doing something new. Is anyone really buying this anymore?

This is all we need, something new for someone to call in about at the tech desk because they dont understand the new IE& and will be so lost

It is free by the way.

The browser wars are over, and IE lost big time. IE7 is not meant to beat any of the real competition out there, it's just a much needed upgrade. If you want a real browser, use firefox or opera.

Hey Bill, I could give a rat's a$s about "tabs." I WANT WEB STANDARDS, YOU MYOPIC TWIT!

Where did my cookie go?

Does anyone know where my cookie went?

I want my Cookie.

it had 45 chocolate chippies in it.

if you steal a chocolate chippie i'll know!

Does anyone know if this will work with Windows For Workgroups 3.11?

I think we should give good credit for Microsoft people for their HCI capabilities. Thats how they have gained the market share. That is a one thing they have mastered. Copying and delaying are the other two. :) I love Firefox. I don't wanna risk my machine with a beta version of IE. So lets wait and see.......

"IE has a ton of security holes because it's the most used browser in the world." ....Poor IE lovers ..... do you think using a browser make holes in it ...he he he Man we r talking about a software here ...... no wear and tear ;-)

I am running windows 2.0. Will this work on Windows 2.0?

OPERA 4 LIFE
firefox suks0rs pen0r for crack
ie is a cheap whore
Opera is PIMPIN GOOD

Nick: You may not like IE, but they definitely won the war ever look at their market share?

Ish: Using a browser doesn't make holes in it, but it does increase the number of people that might like to exploit the holes.

Microsoft: Fix the damn bugs!

Gold Hill Dave: People will use it because it comes installed on their new computer, most people don't care as much as the people reading these articles they just want to get on the web.

I run Win98SE - no bugs, no virusses, USB and USB2 support, no registering with big brother everytime I change hardware configuration, and my PIII isn't bogged down. I use MS IE to test web pages. I will need IE 7 running on Win98 to continue. I'll gladly go to XP - if you spend two weeks re-loading all of my applications and pay me for the downtime.

I'll try FIREFOX tonight.

Does anyone know if this will work on my Vic 20?

Does anyone know if this will work on my Vic 20?

Where do you morons find the time and energy to be so passionate about something as ridiculous as a freaking browser?!?

will this work on my commodore 64? i still have disks i can back up on and if anyone can post a mod for an ethernet connection on it that would be great...

Internet Explorer will always be targeted. Please, get firefox people.

Bien, todo esto es una cagada, IE con "holes" cogidos y todo eso, pero aun asi 70-80% de la gente lo usa, porque? para no instalar Firefox muy posiblemente, pero uno nunca sabe, pero es cierto redmond se durmio con IE6, sin embargo q posibilidades hay de que Firefox sea incluido de fabrica en Windows Vista? ->
"-100%" seguro! :).

people it all boils down to this

a) IE comes bundled up with Windows and it's intergrated within it's core system files
b) it is impossible to uninstall it (you may remove it from your start up menu but it still exists in your system)
c) when IE gets attacked it's usually affects the entire system
d) Microsoft is the only OS maker for IBM compatible pc's and with every version of Windows you get IE
e) hardcore web surfers are bound to look for the best browser out there due to security concerns
f) Firefox alone is used by 10 000 000 users since it's 1.5 version release almost a couple of years ago
g) IE 7 is a revamped Opera with the Firefox extentions

Bottom line
It's not innovative nothing new nothing breathtaking it's just a makeover

The only reason I used to use IE was for the decent built in FTP browsing with folder views that was crippled in the last Bata of IE7... Until I read otherwise I'll never bother with that piece of garbage again.

BTW Firefox has a add-on called FireFTP that Microsoft forced me to find, because I know that IE7 is going to be rammed down our throats once Vista becomes a reality.

Mi PC es uno Tandy TRS-80 con 16K ram. ?Este trabajo para m??

Wake up, this is *2006*
And you're still using... IE?? And XP?.. that's um.. FIVE YEARS OLD. Uh. Get a life.

Firefox aint kewl despite what you hipsters and msbaiters say... why bother with such amateurish toys when konqueror blows them all away... beta schmata... who cares...

How many of you making comments against IE 7 have the program loaded and working....keeping in mind it is only a beta?

I had early versions of Firfox on my system when first released and found it was crap.

Will IE 7 run on our IBM 360?

I tryed it today but took it out it is so slow that I just can't stand it.
I will wate for the final verion

People, people....

Stop worrying about the security crap. GET A MAC! Safari rules and you all can do the PC crap at work, so don't even start with software compatibility and all that "mac sucks" junk....

I tried to get my dog to use IE 7. He looked at me and walked away. This is a dog who visibly enjoys smelling utility posts and butholes. Now if IE7 is not good enough for my dog, don't you think you need higher standards?

The problem with so many IE7-bashers is the fact it won't install on their pirated XP...too bad, luckily Firefox is more thief-friendly.

when microsoft comes up with any decent program, it'll be like G.W.BUSH quits lying

will ie7 run on my hp25 calculator

Yippee! I can now have tabs AND spyware too!

IE is much like the national news casts from the big three networks:
-Mediocre performance. Nothing is all that great.
-Likely to be be corrupted in a short period of time.
-Nothing new. Every version feels oddly like the one before
-The teams that create the news and IE think they're above reproach by the general public.
-We can go elsewhere for a much better product.

I'm serious, most of the people who posted replies here are morons who don't have a life or the slightest clue about software development but are experts in commenting on the secuirty of the software itself.

Actually I use firefox, simply because it's not IE ; and I don't really know which browser is 'better'. And to be quite frank the stuff put out by Apple is only 'better' to a few fanatics, not because it is better, but because they are fanatics. I do though like the shiny aluminium case on Apple laptops...I am by nature gullible and prone to buy shiny things.

Ah man, I love it!
With moves like these, no wonder their crapping their trousers about Linux. I use Several OS's, including All Win32 server products from NT4 thru 2003 Enterprise, at work as a network administrator working in state govt. At home, I prefer a combo of Linux & WinXP Pro + Win2K3 AD. But then, I run a class B network in house, with 7 subnets in use.

MS, if you want to be #1, ...which you may be in numbers, but not in thinking minds... study your competition. Don't kill it, or absorb it, do better. Make OpenSource race you!

Like that'll ever happen.

When I read every single one of your posts, I realised I either don't have a life, or I am really tired and needed some mindless reading to rest my brain.

IE7/64 looks for proxy setting for nearly a full minute. I asume this is a bug but then......Does anyone have a suggestion?

Thanks

still BETA testing? um.. just let me know when it's ready for the market!

Hey IE BASHERS!!!! If you have a problem with IE security, use your stinking Firefox or get a stinking MAC!!!

Those bashers who hate Internet Explorer and don't use it are the ones who are tired of updating Windows, don't setup Internet Explorer's security the right way, and prefer to use Firefox??? Seriously, people!!!!!! Leave the Windows world and switch yourself to stinking LINUX!!! What's the big deal here??? I bet you don't take security measures to secure your Windows computer, do you?

Sheesh...

"The problem with so many IE7-bashers is the fact it won't install on their pirated XP...too bad, luckily Firefox is more thief-friendly."

I wouldn't say Firefox is catering to theives, personally I don't even see why IE bashers care though, just continue using browser X and why browser X people care a new IE came out. Do you feel threatened? why does it matter that somebody isn't using your favorite browser or uses a browser that is outdated or has more security or is more "thief-friendly".

Reading the post before made me type a little bit.

GRAYSON: I've been a Windows user for almost 10 years. I could probably show you how to really secure your Windows, IE, etc. My IE is running in a RAM Drive to speed up the surfing and leave no Temps behind, is hardly configured, I go online with low-rights, etc. And I could save all that time just by getting Firefox or any other browser out there. I'm not a Windows hater but I'm an unhappy customer. I got a Windows 98 CD, Millennium (never got my money back), and XP Professional. I have paid for 3 Windows already thinking that the next one is going to be better until I got to the XP, the most stable. Conclusions I had to pay Microsoft 3 times to get something half good and half safe. What can I do now since Microsoft does not supports Windows 98 anymore? I still remember the commercials telling me about the great customer support for Windows 98 and at the end when problems started coming up the best solution was an upgrade to Windows Millennium, OS which Microsoft had to give away later because of the poor quality. Even though I'm not a Microsoft hater (I should be I think) but they haven't improved much in the last 6 years. 6 YEARS IS WHAT TOOK MICROSOFT TO MAKE XP MORE SECURE AND STABLE WITH THE 10000 SERVICE PACKS!... So don't be a sucker anymore and get the Firefox once for all.

It's going to save you a lot of hooopppssssssss, headaches, time AND IT?S FREE. Firefox team deserves all the credits?

And Microsoft buys the CREDITS? If is not good, make it look good, Bill Gates said

do you know where my cookie is?

OK people.. With all this yapping, over what each party thinks are the better, has anyone actually tried and tested the blady thing? It is after all a IE7 discussion, not a playground for all you FireFox and Opera "designers" to state the pros and cons. Use what you wanna use, if its not IE then piss off! Now, can someone please tell me if the security is tighter? The main problems was the hijacking of it, which lead to downloaders and all of that crap? Any comments?

I really like this new beta. It's really shaping up

It seems like teh security is better. It won't for exmaple evn let you copy thing off a page without a warning, and this now breakls the intergration withe xplorer. akak IE can't look at local pages like explorer does, and explorer can't look at web pages

Posted by sublime on Wednesday, April 26, 2006, 05:31 AM (PST)

Yes, I agree. Everybody have been way off-topic here! C'mon, folks! Get with the Internet Explorer 7 discussion! Why don't you all evaluate it? If you have nothing to say about Internet Explorer, don't bother posting. No exceptions.

This blog is going nowhere to go.

I really like the features of the new IE 7 and look forward to the final release. Unfortunately, when I switched to IE 7 my high-speed internet connection was slowed to sub-dial up levels - I am not sure what the problem is there but Microsoft better have it fixed before they release the final version.

I am going to quit my job, and start writing add-ons to beta versions of IE7. According to the addon site SynergeticSoft just made $ 10.047.759,94 in four days (i.e. since the site went public). My wife will also quit her job, so next year we might buy Hawii.

Or maybe the downloads numbers are just a bit off ?

ofmgz whos useing IE or 98SE anymore haha earth to you people... its 2006. XP Pro here. i can't wait untill vitsa omfg what hte hell is you peoples problems. its not the 1990's anymore

quote:"Posted by sam on Tuesday, April 25, 2006, 04:42 AM (PST)
Doesn't this look exactly the same as apple's safari? yet another copy of mac os x"

uhh wtf? macs are liek the suckiest computers ever made. Apple should be ashamed.

Whenever I try to download something with IE7 beta 2 it completes the download but will not showup.

The beta verion SUCKS. It seems like it doesnt even want me to surf the web...this is blocked, that is blocked...I change the settings...they get reset....way to slow...the old version is much better even though I do prefer Firefox

Personally, I think the beta is okay, needs compatability with Norton IS 2006, thats about it, and it needs to run faster. But it is a beta. Media Player 11 runs nicely though.

And a message two Anti-IE people. Eventhough its been said time and time again. The IE bashing is what cause people to hack it, and which in turn starts more bashing. But really, why are people worried about security if they have the firewall and anti-virus. Com'mon, I dont surf the internet without security software, just to see how fast I get hacked.

I like I E 7 just fine (beta or not) and that is my right. I didn't care for the Media Player 11 because it seems to want too much control over my media files (I have no interest, for example, in keeping a "library" loaded in ANY of my media players---I know where the files are when I want them. I found the Media Player 10 to be just about perfect for those rare occasions I actually WANT to use the Windows Media Player (its audio quality compared to the RealOne is horrible and all the messing with the "free" equalizer will make no difference). The same is true with Apple's I-Tunes---the sound is garbage. But for those who are unwilling to pay for a decent media player I suppose either is better than nothing.

Anyone remember Winamp? That was a free media player that actually wasn't half bad---if it hadn't been so spyware and trojan friendly.

Winamp was a great player until AOL got ahold of it and filled it with all the spyware and other snoops.
I like firefox just fine, my co-worker in IT suggested it to the suits and now everyone is using it or Nutscrape. I use IE for the pages that don't render well in Firefox, using just one tab.
I am hungry for Vista, I was going to go to the XP 64 bit, I really don't have time to search for drivers. Even tho my hardware is fairly new, there is always that one piece that, no matter what you do, gives you grey hair.

if you dont like the way a program works with any browser in any OS, just go to: oldversion.com and you can get an earlier version (winamp for example) that worked great.

firefox, i just cant get it to work effortlessly...despite all the extensions and addons some sh** just wont work. opera is cool, but if you have a PC and you run MS software there will always be issues with third party programs. if it was your company, wouldnt you do the same? and finally, do you think that all this crap remains so tecnical because it has to? besides code....NO!

Internet Explorer 7 only runs on XP/SP2 and Windows 2003 server. It doesn't run on Windows 2000 or earlier (98,95,3.x) or Linux.

Heh. I'm one of the ones using the beta. I also use firefox (my use is pretty evenly split), mainly because of a couple of extensions that end up useful in my browsing.

The hate is over-rated. The beta is not perfect, but it works. It's a lot less cluttered than IE 6 was, the HCI design is pretty good. To some extent, it originally seemed devoid of much.

Now I get it to download things just fine, it browses fast, and does almost anything it needs to do. There are a few bugs, most notably involving the Back button every once in a while, but hey, it's a beta. The other issues was more a lack of browser support on some websites, but again, how can you support a program that hasn't been officially released yet?

And for all the jokers, I've a desktop running 98SE and it works just fine. I also use XP on my laptop... nothing wrong with 98 SE, it was one of the better efforts with NT and XP.

Why our technology so slow here?.

Well all and all i have used windows 3.0, windows 98, 98se, windows me, and now windows xp media and not once i have ever had any problems with nethier one of them. what is it everyone on here do so different from me that they have all these problems? as far as IE, and netscape which i use and have never had a problem with.

Slappy do you use your computer? I'm a tech and can fix almost any problem that comes up (well... I should say I know how to find the answers, anyway), but the only computers I have ever known to not have any problems are those on which people never install anything new, and never do much more than get email and play solitaire.

Id have to agree with slappy here. Ive used windows near enough everyday since win98, and when I say used, I actually mean used as in installing new software, developing software, internet browsing, anything you can actually do, I do. Ive never had a problem with windows, yet there are lots of people complaing they have crashes every 5 minutes, viruses every day, apps running slow.
Maybe its because I know how to use windows properly, and protect it, I really dont know. IE is a handy browser for known turstworthy sites, but not for serious browsing. Wouldnt want to land on a dodgy crack site in IE now would we...
IE would have to prove a lot to me to make my main browser, but its new sandbox design sounds promising. Just lots of testing can find that out.

I don't know why every one hates IE and states that Opera and Firefox or "better".
1 Firefox is as slow as IE
2 Opera is the fastest browser on the planet, but have you ever tried to run different types of Java applications? I cannot use Ebay's selling feature or Fedex ship manager as well as other things with Opera. Also there is always a problem with flash and shockwave on it.
3 maybe I don't like Firefox because it looks very much like Netscape Navagator "the most profoundly horrible browser" on the planet.
4 IE seems to be slow at time, unless you have a very fast computer, but because of the Microsoft prominance, You can use IE to work with what ever you need (i.e. you need flash, that works with IE, you need and applet, that'll work too, you need Quicktime to run in the background, that too will work, etc).
I used to use Opera, but now you can get computers that are fast enough to run IE where IE will run very fast for you. Although, Opera had a cool feature were you could highlight text and right click and then click on voice. Then, the computer would read to you the text.

Firefox has issues all it's own, everyone right now is just in a love/hype craze with the thing. It's a decent browser, but looking at IE7 and it looks better than Firefox currently. Especially with that nasty memory hogging problem, and spontaneous browser crashing. Not to mention their email client SUCKS! Stop being such rebels just to rebel.

Ahh can anyone see that IE is copying FF. Or maybe notm maybe MS is stuck in a hole an couldn't see the light untill now. All i got to say is Tabbed browsing, took MS all theses years. WOW. FF is way better with more support than IE. The plugins for example, as soon as I launch FF it tells me my current temp and a 2 day forcast, also if i have any email waiting for me at Gmail. can IE do that nope.

I don't know what the big deal is with all you IE haters. So you don't like IE, great. Now get off this thread!!! I have used all the versions of IE since it first came out. I have gone through all the updates and fixes. Sure, a bit of work, but I have never had any issues with it.

I have some cultish friends trying to convert me to FF. "IE is the devil" they will say, but the fact remains, even with all my avid surfing (when I say "avid surfing" I mean constantly surfing for new software and yes, I'll admit it, porn) it never gave me any problems. I've yet to find a better browser. Can't wait for the next version of IE. Don't hate, congratulate!!!

Will it work on my hand held abacus?

IE7 IS Great. Is low targeted because off low users, IS much faster then firefox opening the browser, the pages are preety better seeing in IE7 than the sucking firefox, and have a lot of great functions.
Firefox is slow, and HEAVY targeted more than IE6.
Use IE7 pls this beta is better than any good version of firefox. Win XP Pro SP2 rulls =)

IE7 IS Great. Is low targeted because off low users, IS much faster then firefox opening the browser, the pages are preety better seeing in IE7 than the sucking firefox, and have a lot of great functions.
Firefox is slow, and HEAVY targeted more than IE6.
Use IE7 pls this beta is better than any good version of firefox. Win XP Pro SP2 rulls =)

I do a lot of copy and pasting articles..to my site,However ie6 works fine for this method..But firefox won't let me paste..I prefer firefox for the tabs to make things more easy..But with that fault in firefox i suffer using the new window feature of ie. Does anyone know why that is!?

Hi i downloded the beta version first its working very fast after two days its very slow take time to downlode anyfils, take time to open the explorer, thay have any problem like this, not in my pc. more than 15 pc in my office all r same problem can u give the soloution plss,,

Personal preferences are pretty much the norm, nowadays, no?
I use IE when I need to. Sometimes I do. Sometimes I don't. Mozilla is my default, and it's fine for me. I do like how quickly IE7 opens, and that it's finally got tabs. My personal tastes say that I like it better than Opera or ff, but less than Mozilla, at least so far. Then again.......familiarity is the key, right?
It's an improvement, and that's what really matters. If someone hates IE/MS, then they're never going to be happy with it.
To each thier own. I'll have it around, it has it's uses, I ONLY wish it had kept the FTP capability of 6.

Will it work on my fingers?

HA HA HA!! I was just kidding! Seriously folks, it won't work on something as old as a Commodore 64. But it does work on my Apple IIe. (Slows it down some)

All of you Evangelical Firefox and Opera users forget that if it was'nt for IE, you would not have a second rate, spyware filled hardly compatible, not capable of ever being marketed browser.

Most of you are probably Goth types and anti social little punks that that think you are just expressing your individuality,

THIS IS A THREAD FOR I.E.7 WHY ARE YOU EVEN HERE. GO HOME TO MOMMY!

Use what you want. WHO CARES? Have problems/don't have problems. WHO CARES? It works or it doesn't. WHO CARES? I DON'T!
There are MUCH more important things to think about.

Will it work on my KitchenAid Mixer? LOL

I tried the suggestion by microsoft to access my ftp site;however, it failed too. I am unable to access my website to make changes. It doesn't look like version 6 is still on my computer and 7 won't let 6 download again. So I can't undo 7 because then I wouldn't have anything to re-access web to download 6 again.

In my opinion, a big miss for a beta.

yes, but did you try it five times?

Dear Anonymous: did it really work on your Kitchenaide mixer? cause my GE mixer would'nt chop my walnuts, wouldn't even make smoothies. DAMN Microsoft! well, it is only a beta after all, I guess.

anyone send any other link to download ie 7 beta 2

Just want to say guys. The porn does it. Why do you think my lappy is perfectly clean? No spyware, no nothing. Sure, I prefer Linux and the open source paradigm, but Windows isn't all that bad. If all Windows users were like Mac users, Windows would have the stranglehold still. Mac users have to say that it works great, and if it doesn't? They fix it and continue to say it works great. IE 7 is quite a nice product. It runs immediately (no spending 10 hours with plugins and saying that now your browser is so easy), the security is in fact much better (closed system). So I'd recommend trying it. If you use Windows. And didn't steal it.

What if the roles where turn? What if Opera or Firefox where the most used browsers? Then of course they too would be suffering from the same security problems as IE is currently having. It's easy to point the fingers at solely one company, but you have to give some credit to Microsoft, they are trying and working to correct these issues. As long as you have installed the updates and use common sense when surfing your current IE 6 and next version 7 will work fine. I use IE 6 and I have never experienced any problems with it. It all depends on your web surfing habits and how often you install updates! Regardless Microsoft is doing there best.

I've got it on my machine, and it's disappointing. It crashes everytime I try to close a tab or if I try to close the program with more than one tab open. It looks like it could be a good program, but it's so unstable on my machine that I won't know until it's out of beta whether it'll work or not. I'll be using Firefox primarily, and if I don't see a real improvment after the official release, then Firefox is it for me.

I've been using IE7 since the first beta was released. Now that it no longer corrupts the graphics in McAfee Security Center, it seems to work just fine.
The new interface took some getting used to, but after some time, you come to appreciate the extra space made available by the new interface.
I really like the ability to preview all open tabs in one window.
Time will tell if the security really is better, but I think most security issues with IE6 are due to user negligence. Keep your antivirus prog up to date, use a good firewall, don't be a bonehead online, and ALWAYS read the EULA, and you should stay pretty safe from hackers and other nasties.

Pros:
IE7 doesn't have it's hooks buried as deep in the OS as IE6 did.
So far, it's pretty quick.
I haven't had many site compatibality issues.
More screen real estate due to revised UI.
Tab browsing window.
Zoom control.
Works very well for a beta.

Cons:
New UI takes some getting used to.
It will be the standard browser, so it's got a nice big target on it.
Still allows ActiveX controls. MS should do away with ActiveX. It causes more problems than it solves.

Will IE7 run on my 1969 MGB?? I hope it is stable... just thinking about "crashes" and "MG" at the same time has me all jittery.

Nice. Microsoft once again proves that it is a great adaptor.

Good work Redmond guys, keep up with the progress.

i'VE BEEN "TESTING" IE 7 beta since version 1 and I must say, it is much faster, but being someone who works in IT Securities, I must admit, it is not muc more secure than it IE6. I've used FF and Opera and found that Opera is one of the best browsers available for the Win/PC user.

I'm not goin to bash or outright endorse one over the other. I somtimes switch back to IE for different tasks that I just can't do in Opera or FF.
But when it comes to my cclients (I run a PC Repair and Consulting firm also), I tell them to give all three a try for at least a week and let me know which one they stick with. If they stick with IE, I generally charge more because I have to make their PC more secure meaning more work.

If they choose FF, then I have to make it faster(which you can if you look up the info on using google). If it's Opera, then I have to make sure it works with the plugins.

Ever Browser has it's pros and cons. It's just a matter of how much are you willing to put into the browser to make sure it's trouble free.

It's interesting that Microsoft is doing the same thing to Mozilla that they did to Apple in the 80's. . . Microsoft waits like a naughty little boy and cheats off of the best ideas of a fellow classmate.

Microsoft is basically ripping off the best features of Firefox inlcuding: tabbed browsing, RSS Support, and Search Plugins.

As a corporation, Microsoft was finally forced to give users a badly needed upgrade to a Browser, that because of its widespread use has become the bain of non-internet savvy users.

Uninformed users of IE 6, and maybe even IE 7 could open a webpage, have a drive-by download or accidentally click on a pop-up message and install one of those nefarious spyware laiden toolbars, not to mention users that have no clue what they are doing on the internet and wonder why there is spyware crawling all over their machine.

My final verdict. . . wait for a few months and see how many holes are exploited before considering going back to Internet Explorer.

Hmm. Im using firefox now, only because IE7 needs genuine *whistles*. But i have BETA 3 on my other computer. I greatly prefer if over firefox.. mainly cause unlike firefox it dosnt take forever to open.

Oh and as i forgot to mention in my previous reply..

The people who keep saying that Internet Explorer "steals" its features off firefox are wrong. As 90% of the stuff in Firefox was also stolen off someone else. (Including Tabs)

Really what is the big deal about Firefox? It's no great shakes, doesn't offer anything new to a 'normal' net user. I can live without tabs even.

I've tried both and I don't know which is 'better'.

How different can one browser be from another? They both show me webpages, they both have 'bookmarks'. I don't need anything else.

Does anyone know if the tabs can be automatically refreshed?

Thanks, .....Norm

Does anyone know if individual tabs can be automatically refreshed?

Thanks, .....Norm

Umm... I love Firefox and it is all I use... But IE still has 85% of the market here and like 70% in Europe. So how can anyone possibly say that MS has lost the browser war? I mean after all a war is about who has the best stuff, but rather how well they attack with it.

I think IE7 is ok but need some work to keep up with the compitition. I have had Firefox and Opera. I liked them both but they were nothing when i discovered Maxthon Browser. I would recomend it to anybody.