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Thursday, October 20, 2005 10:00 AM PT Posted by Edward N. Albro

Final Version of the New OpenOffice.org

After a long public beta, OpenOffice.org 2.0, the free, open source office suite, is finally final.

I've been using the suite off and on for a few months and have found it generally a solid alternative to Microsoft's suite. You can open and create documents in Microsoft Office file formats like .doc, .xls and .ppt, so working with people who use Office usually isn't a problem. When I worked with word documents and spreadsheets, everything was smooth. I found, though, that OpenOffice sometimes failed to show everything in a Powerpoint presentation with complicated animations. You can find a fuller review of the beta here.

While it won't suit everyone, OpenOffice 2.0 is a good choice for anyone who blanches at laying out hundreds of dollars for an office suite. If you're going to run over to the OpenOffice site today, though, be warned: Their servers are handling such a heavy volume that they're pretty slow.

Comments

One exception to the congested servers. The more the better! If you are using bit torrent anyway. My cable usually runs at about 100kbps. I tried bit torrent and it zipped to about 200kbps.

Kevin
October 20, 2005
4:29 PM PT

oh, and I will try out open office 2.0 and post back.

Anonymous
October 20, 2005
4:31 PM PT

oh, and I will try out open office 2.0 and post back.

Kevin
October 20, 2005
4:31 PM PT

I downloaded the Linux-installer version and find that it doesn't run with the old style installer but only assembles a whole suite of *.rpm files. I surely don't want to install OpenOffice in default directories chosen by anybody who thinks in *.rpm.

I downloaded the source, thinking that I could avoid the primitive RPM model and organize the directory structure in a more creative-efficient way but found that the source code is that from mid-September -- release candidate 3.

I don't intend to bother compiling beta code and I won't allow myself or anyone in my labs to use any *.rpm or even *.deb models for code installation.

Olivia Jensen
October 20, 2005
5:49 PM PT

Release Candidate 3 is the same as the final release, except for the name change. It's not a Beta.

Anonymous
October 20, 2005
7:15 PM PT

I finished downloading the Linux version (about 100MB) in less than 5 mintues. With bit torrent of course, the rate was around 550KB/Sec since there are so many seeds :)

It contains many RPMS, plus desktop-integration packages targeting different distributions: Debian, SUSE, etc.

After installation with 'alien' on my Debian laptop, I found it is quite good, compared with the beta 1. Powerpoint handling is greatly improved.

Anonymous
October 20, 2005
10:48 PM PT

what wonderful goobledegook is posted here. Do any of you geeks ever speak english? I can only pity your partners unless they are alos built on the same mould as you. Scott Adams is so on the ball, when he parodies comuter geeks.

Sane
October 21, 2005
2:48 AM PT

what wonderful goobledegook is posted here. Do any of you geeks ever speak english? I can only pity your partners unless they are alos built on the same mould as you. Scott Adams is so on the ball, when he parodies computer geeks.

Sane
October 21, 2005
2:48 AM PT

what wonderful goobledegook is posted here. Do any of you geeks ever speak english? I can only pity your partners unless they are also built in the same mould as you. Scott Adams is so on the ball, when he parodies computer geeks.

Sane
October 21, 2005
2:49 AM PT

Hehe, what an idiot. I would pity your partner, but if you have time to make fun of geeks by posting the same message three times, its evident you're finding it hard to bag that guy you like so much. It was a gay joke, but purely based on the fact you love Scott Adams so much...

As for OOo 2, I still prefer the slickness of Office but I'm not gonna fork out that much just for the sake of it being blue. Its really worth the d/load, and fully supports OpenDocument which should become the norm in a few years anyway, especially after being taken up on the state/government level.

Matt
October 21, 2005
4:23 AM PT

Don't forget, if you want the same apps with a few more addons and supprt, StarOffice costs a small amount

Anonymous
October 21, 2005
8:59 AM PT

I hope M$ has some kewl new feature that everyone wants, but breaks OpenOffice.

Gno Won
October 21, 2005
11:31 AM PT

This is the right way on migration to Linux. First applications as Firefox, OpenOffice, etc, then, when you are used to this applications, change the operating system itselft.

Anonymous
October 21, 2005
12:35 PM PT

linux all the way.. use uBunTu... and open office its amazing

FoianZ
October 21, 2005
1:13 PM PT

Linux all the way?.

We have hundred million computers with Windows. You can't migrate all of this computers in one single step, it is very hard for people and business. Instead, you can go in small steps. You can begin using free applications that run in both plataforms as Firefox and OpenOffice, then you can use open development tools that work on both OS, open database systems and, when everything is woking fine, with open software, you can move to Linux.

Moving to Linux in one single step is not viable for most enterprises, But if you divide it in multiple steps is perfectly viable and easy.

Anonymous
October 21, 2005
3:06 PM PT

This sounds really cool! But I just want to use the PDF function is it really worth downloading all that stuff for that one function?

Stephen
October 21, 2005
9:56 PM PT

They are exactly right. Migrations are best handled in small steps. That way you tackle one problem at a time.

For instance with MS Office many people tie it into relational databases that interact with custom and other software. SQL is a standard, but all vendors have their own variations and extensions. So things will break for people moving from MS Office to OO.org, but it's not insermountable or even that difficult to fix.

Once that those problems are solved then the transition to linux for that company would be much easier then it would be otherwise.

There has already been more then one person that I've seen in forums and such say stuff along the lines of: "well I made the transition to Linux and it wasn't difficult.. All my applications that I use were already pre-installed and ready for me on X distro."

Anonymous
October 22, 2005
1:24 AM PT

If you want the PDF function, install PDFCreator. It is a print driver that produces PDF format.

The only thing that MSOffice has over OpenOffice is Access. OOo's Base is not quite there yet.

marytee
October 22, 2005
5:13 AM PT

One gripe: When I had beta and I would download text docs for my college classes they would open automatically. With 2.0 it fails in its attempt to open the file and deletes it, forcing me to download a second time. The second time only works if I click 'retry' in the firefox download manager.

Anonymous
October 22, 2005
7:40 AM PT

I tried a beta release of 2.0 a few months back and my biggest problem was that it was terribly slow to open (even if I let it auto load at startup). I'm working on a new machine with 768MB RAM, so it shouldn't be an equipment problem. Does anyone know if this problem has been fixed?

Anonymous
October 22, 2005
8:04 AM PT

Open Office load times have improved a lot over the past few months. Give the final version a try.

On a different note, in my experience, the biggest advantage staroffice has over open office, is that it supports 3d acceleration of slide transitions (like fade) making it run much smoother than open office. Of course, the support is another big plus. Try the 90 day trial available from their site.

One really nice thing about open office is the bibliography database available in writer. This saves a lot of time when writing large essays, etc.

Some places that open office still has room for improvement are:

Spreadsheets:
More graphing options. While the graphs supported work well, I find they are hard to control. Maybe add support for things like lines of best fit and scaling the graph appropriatly when the values (assuming they are numbers) on the x axis are not in consistant intervals.

General:
xhtml and html export. While html export has bene improved, it still has no way to export the document or slides withouth the navigation component. If this was available, it would be a powerful tool for use with web design. xhtml export only works for files less than ~4MB. Also, add xhtml + ccs export, to create stardards compliant code that can be used immediatly (even if the performance is not optimal (duplicate css entries, etc).

Up and Coming for Star office at least

VBA macro converter. There is currently a rudamentary in the enterprise version but it doesn't actually convert large amounts of the code but says what you need to do and extimates the amount of time it will take to change the macros to star office compatible ones. Once a very good macro converter is available, the barriers most small buisinesses have to transitioning to open office no longer exist.

Sworkhard
October 22, 2005
8:59 AM PT

Gno Won:

kewl?

Stop it. Just stop it. The word is "cool," ok?

If you cannot use language correctly, please refrain from using it at all. Seriously, I'm going nuke-u-ler here.

RFD3
October 22, 2005
11:03 AM PT

OpenOffice is not only only an office suite. It is one of the very first steps to migrate to open software and Linux. When people at enterprises are used to it, you are one step closer to Linux. OpenOffice is an office "sweet".

Anonymous
October 22, 2005
12:32 PM PT

Hey is it compatible with a tablet pc functions. If so it is at par with Office 2003. Hey the geeky tablet.

Sze
October 22, 2005
2:41 PM PT

I mean hail the tablet pc.

Sze
October 22, 2005
2:44 PM PT

The Open office 2.0 is great alternative. I had a problem with opening a powerpoint presentation with transitions which I originally done on MS powerpoint. When i tried open my file with impress, my computer hanged and restarted my windows XP pro. The error was infinite looping of the graphics card. The work around I did to solve the problem was to remove all the transition and reapply it using openoffice 2.0.
This thing happened the first time I installed it.

Ronald
October 22, 2005
3:48 PM PT

kewl

Anonymous
October 23, 2005
8:00 AM PT

Or is it cewl? Who cares anyway!

Anonymous
October 23, 2005
11:06 AM PT

When they say "kewl," they said it with a winky face in case of the word "cool." When I look at Office 12's GUI and I really like it a lot, I'd say "kewl," which gives me a winky face. This can be the case that they're so excited that they can't wait to try out the computer software.

Grayson Peddie
October 25, 2005
7:18 PM PT

OO - great for what I need in general 'office' sofware...in fact more than I need generally, that plus Thuderbird for email...I'm all set at NO COST. What could be better?

Lyndon
November 14, 2005
12:00 AM PT
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