E3: Added Details on Microsoft's Xbox 360

what is the price canadian, and when *aproxamatly*will it be available to canada?

It'll be approximately $299 USD, available Thanksgiving week.

The X-Box 360 may not be the most powerful of the next gen gaming systems, as the PS3 may have more processing power, but all the extra features the X-Box 360 offers may give it the edge it needs to beat sony.
I want to see what the PS3 have to offer as far as extras go as it is now clear that processing power is not the main factor any more. Unless the PS3 can compete online or Nentendo creates somthing really appealing then I fear that microsoft may take over yet another market.

Actually, the X-Box had the superior graphics processing power out of the 3 current consoles. In my opinion, if consumers can either find the new style of controllers appealing or just get over it, the PS3 will win the much anticipated console war. I also believe that Microsoft and Nintendo made a bad move by not
switching to high density media disks (HD-DVD, BR-DVD) or a proprietary media, like what Nintendo did with the Game-Cube. Anyone remember Beta??? Anyone???

how much is the xbox 360 ?

Although there has been no officical comments about a difinitive price for the 360, I would also hazard a guess at around $300USD. This way Microsoft can produce a profit while staying in the market with Sony and Nintendo, as Microsoft could not cut production costs by integrating hardware (like the HD) in the manufacturing and assembly processes like Sony did, and probably will.

I think that xbox 360 is the most superior to the three consoles. With better graphics and more to do with it it should be able to be more interactive with gamers and that is what i think that xbox gamers will like the most. I wanted to know why is sony waiting to sell their product until after the xbox 360 is sold? Is it to enance the PS3 to try and make it better than the xbox?

I Cant wait for thanksgiving! The xbox 360 is going to be the best in the market. Forget the PS3

its going to be a rip off stick with nintendo they are always going to deliever fun

I'd like to see Xbox match PS3 with the HD space. Sony with 53g and Xbox 20g. Also I hope Xbox offers the DVR option with the HD like PS3 will. Just my two cents.

well i think that it looks like something straight out of mac... and anyways it cant play the new Zelda game can it?

Notice why Microsoft decided to utilize the current standard DVD format and snuffed the HD-DVD? It would most likely increse the price of manufacturing the system, as Microsoft also would most likely need a 3rd party manufacturer of the drive.

Some ppl decided to buy ps3 because they can only play final fantasy on it, so why bother with this 360 thing??

Too bad Windows doesn't support PPCs, or else I'd buy one to hack it and use as a nice PC for $300.

Sony is crap and any serious gamer knows it. They will start their console out at 400+ dollars many months after xbox has been out. Which will make the xbox look better by a price comparison. Nintendo may not have the most powerful system this round, but they always come through on the software which is, as we all know, the most important part of a game console. I'll buy a Nintendo because I love those guys, and an xbox because perfect dark and halo are awesome. Sony can bite me because they aren't getting this guys hard earned cash :) (although props to Killzone 2, WOW...still hate sony though)

Do you hate Sony's ability to create the largest selection of widely varying games, and an even larger fanbase?

The Xbox 360 is already showed us how powerful it truly is and how powerful it has the capability to be. I've bought the Nintendo DS and the Nintedo Gamecube and was thoroughly dissapointed with each. All the games are basically meant for five years olds. It's pathetic. So I really don't think i'll even be looking at the Nintendo Revoultion just because of the poor games they've came out with in the past. I think the real battle lies between the Xbox 360 And the PS3. I just wish we knew more about each system so we could compare fairly.

What I want to know is how much the X-Box 360 will be in British pounds.

And what's the big deal with Sony? I always thought that the X-Box had way better graphics than PS2.

I think that anyone who buys a nintendo product is really stupid because the system itself is really good but they never test it like what ps2 did and xbox. I would have to say as an owner of all 3 systems I like the ps2 better and expect even more with the ps3 and xbox 360 since they have a really good system I have heard of and with there history they will have some pritty kick *** games for each and maybe nintendo will take notes.

I have one thing to say...Halo 3

What's this big problem with the XBox 360 HD? 20GB is more than enough, as the first one only had *GB, I'be had mine for a good two years, never deleted a file and still have more than 50,000 blocks of memory left!

I would hope that Sony, Micro, or whoever else steps up to the marketplace will utilize the technology that is available at this time and remove the "Loading" text to be removed from my plasma each time I complete a level. End users are no longer wanting to wait while something is loading. I own all but still end up on my Dell XPS. Rock on gamers!

Already have a 360 on pre-order... HOWEVER as much as I love my current XBOX and dig the 360, the PS3 has superior processing power this round, period. It has 8 cores vs. the 3 cores of the 360...(1TFLOP vs. 1.8TFLOP) also the capabilities of the PS3 are sick! As much as I wanted the PS3 to suck, it doesn't. Of course it will take EXPENSIVE games to use all that power. So M$ will probably have cheaper titles :)

The current XBOX is just hitting its limits, and the next console is only 7 months away. So does it make sense for PS3 to be such a powerhouse? I wouldn't want to pay for power that won't be effectively used since consoles update every 5yrs...

The 360 will be the best buy for younger gamers this time... with all the video chat and "friends" capabilities... which is fine. For older married guys who talk to their friends maybe once a month, the LIVE component has less luster. I'd prefer the clock cycles. The other biggie for me is ease of access to my network and media, w/out needing other proprietary devices (i.e. XP Media Center Edition PC). M$ hasn't been too specific yet as I've heard that any XP machine will work w/the 360s media capabilities, but also alot of "XP Media Center PC" talk. I'm not buying a new PC just to get XP Media Center interactivity/streaming capability.

Honestly they're both great machines w/alot of promise. I'm getting my 360 first, but I'll be picking up a PS3 at some point.

the xbox 360 is gonna do just what the dreamcast did and die horribly...... plus it looks like a freakin camputer.

apoc....

The xbox 360 is a freakin computer numb-nuts.

PS. Learn how to spell

you cant even compare the Xbox 360 to the Dreamcast.... Dreamcast was Sega's last breath of air trying to grasp for life!!! Microsoft and the Xbox are hardly on their last leg

its 299 but if u get the extras its going to cost 360$ hence the xbox 360 kinda funny huh

Look people the XBox 360 is going to be the next big thing. I mean the 360 is going to be completely wireless. Also when u get on a computer u are on a microsoft computer same with the XBox. Finally u can download music and movies on 360 when ur on live.

P.S. Any comments my gamertag is sevenball.

Where are you guys getting this $299 USD figure. There's been no official disclosure or even hints by M$...... or any of the sites I've been following. I hope you're right, $299 is just cheap enough to keep the guilt from setting in.

lol, its not even possible for microsoft to go bankrupt anyways.
anyways, im all out for the 360, i think its gonna dominate, plus it has halo 3 to look forward too. final fantasy is also coming to the 360, and final fantasy was the only reason i ever considered buying a ps2. the ps3 still shows promise and i do think it will give the 360 a run for its money, but i know that i will be getting a 360 1st :)

Look people the XBox 360 is going to be the next big thing. I mean the 360 is going to be completely wireless. Also when u get on a computer u are on a microsoft computer same with the XBox. Finally u can download music and movies on 360 when ur on live.

P.S. Any comments my gamertag is sevenball.

I've heard 300 USD with the console, and one controller

There will also be another package available for 360 USD with a hard drive and multiple contollers

According to the conferences and interviews at E3, there's ONE config at 360 launch.

The console, the controller, a free month of LIVE Gold, and a 20GB HDD.

I can 't believe PS3 might loose it that bad to the 360 because Ps2 also had it's own capabilities with the first xbox,but xbox now dominated by stealing some of those capabilities and turning them into the 360,I think it's going to be off the hook and Boost the video game industry a whole lot.Ps3 is not going to make much progress like the Ps2.Sony is out of ideas.

Any body play halo 2 online?
If so my account is (TS 816)

I am hearing that the 360 is not going to play all of the first xbox's games.

TS 816 - That's wrong. This article pretty much stated it will play them all.

Final Fantasy XI is coming to Xbox, which is old. And Final Fantasy XII and XIII is coming to PS3. Plus the PS3 abilities to use two 1080p HD screens is going to blow the 360 out the water, the processing power of the PS3 is much greater then any home computer in existence today. I think people don't understand what the PS3 will bring, movie like quality CG rendered in real time!!! AWESOME!!! PS3 ROCKS!!!

Xbox 360 will kick ass

lame xbox

PS3 might have that sh** but still Xbox360 looks PIMP

the only thing I'll compain about xbox 360 is the either rumer or fact about the system not playing its old games. dose anyone know any thing about that???????? I mean i guess it wouldn't matter since i have an xbox right now but it would be nice not to need it any more.

every1 knows that halo3 will seel the xbox 360 and the graphics power on the 360 is much better than that of the PS3 so there is no competion watsoeva. Sony might as well die a slow painfull death involving a nail, ice cubes and the xbox 360. Ha ha ha. Microsoft rulz and u no it!!!

you guys r all stupid dor liking xbox u guys sre just jeoulous ps3 has so many more functions

killzone 2 will rule halo and ps3 has all this technolgy crammed in it ! xbox is aiming this console 4 the people who really dont like video games

xbox is retarted they are only making it backwards compatible with its only top games so that means only one game is backwards compatible

xbox will rule once again in the next console wars! better games, better games, oh yeah! PS3 will have plenty of games, but not good ones, hahahhahah

the playstation 3 will be much better than the xbox 360

ok, first of all lets get one thing strait. ps3 has more processesing power then x-box 360 and better graphics. but both are so miniscule it wont matter much. putting that aside, the wave of the new technology is all about online play. x-box has a well working live. if sony and nintendo dont come up with their own versions, they are f***ed. i just hope nintendo doesnt disapoint again

It won't be available to Canadian's until April 2006 - Something about Canadian citizen's not being able to handle the ultra-real blood/gore generated by next generation consoles.

listen xbox users just face stop denying yourself playstation 3 is better and the ps3 had amazing graphics at thier press confrence at e3 the x box was talking about how great the free online play was and what u can do online and + ps3 rules microsoft sucks and the psp also rules

and by the way, lets not forget people, just becuase 360's hardrive is 20 gigs ITS REMOVABLE. that means i could put a 200 gig if i wanted to.

xbox isnt really adding anything because bill gates just wants all your money

I heard the PS3 cell chip overheats so you can't play on it for more than 45 minutes without pausing for a 15 minutes cool-down period.

hello i love xbox and i think the ps3 is going to be a good match. like evryone loves xbox is cause its grafics and ps has a large game variety. the revolution is going to be cool but it has to do really good to be a match for the other two. i think the hand helds are lam.but nintendo might use the teck on the revo

The 360 will blow everything away! Ps3 sucks balls. Take out the 3, and put in an I and an S between the P and S, and then add the letters ed at he end, and the word off, and you get what sony willbe the Nintendo Revolution will "revolve back" to the shelves, never to be bought.

The 360 will blow everything away! Ps3 sucks balls. Take out the 3, and put in an I and an S between the P and S, and then add the letters ed at he end, and the word off, and you get what sony will be the Nintendo Revolution will "revolve" back to the shelves, never to be bought.

Considering how powerful the ps3 is with its Cell Processor it definitely not going to be cheap, probable close to $600 or more. While, Xbox 360 will debut with a cheaper price. Also you get more perks with Xbox making it more versatile. Not to mention getting Xbox Live - Silver Edition for free.

The 360 will blow everything away! Ps3 sucks balls. Take out the 3, and put in an I and an S between the P and S, and then add the letters ed at he end, and the word off, and you get what sony will be. the Nintendo Revolution will "revolve" back to the shelves, never to be bought.

Microsoft running a better business plan than Sony...
Sell Sony buy Microsoft...Get rich!!!

Im gonna get a XBOX360 for sure!!!

mmhmm....360 is going to kick ass.....graphics and processor speed is so minor that the functionality of the xbox will blow the ps3 out of the water....you can't have all that power in the ps3 without games that develop for such a long time that they will come out after they develop a new system...just face it sony lovers, they can't develop more than a few really good games that push the ps3's processing speed....xbox is so much better

Well............... everybody say thank you to Bill Gates for making Xbox 360 -_- lol

Who eva likes xbox 360 iz a fagg suk on a dik bone bych iz PS3 NIGGAAAAAAA fa lyfe n we bomb on u wit ta blu ray dik u ain gettin no ware wit hd-dvd bych u dik ridein faggots sony bych girlzzzzz i wanna fukkk!

you can compet with XBox 360 skills!

Does anyone know for sure that XBox 360 is going to be 300$.

xbox is comin out in september....just a lil inside info

i do not care how good the new PS3 is going to be because i am definately getting the xbox 360. no matter how good sony will try to make the playstation, the xbox will always be better. i started with them and i am going to finish with them. - except their computer operating systems suck and apple is WAAAAAYYYYYYYY better!!!!!

Xbox 360 will be the sh*t considering its microsoft's second console...sony does sound like it is making a cool system but for the "price" and features xbox wil be a better console in the end or the beginning doesnt really matter..cuz halo 2 is the bomb and halo 3 will be cool

Xbox 360 is the bomb. Why does sony even try they can't compete with microsoft.

look bottom line xbox is an all around better system and 90% of the games are good to Great games sony has a whole lot of games but only a small percentage are very good plus xbox 360 may be a gay name but there are so many great features and the price is going to be great for what u get

When is the Xbox 360 being released in Australia and how much will it cost?

Damn fellas, I can't believe there is all this one sidedness. I've looked at the specs of the systems or what I could acquire and the PS3 is the more powerful of the 2 machines but I heard that xbox is the easier to work with of the 2. Honestly, I think that they are both great machines and it always comes down to software.

my name is tom and i want a xbox 360 for free plz

I am a hardcore Microsoft fan. But lets be realistic. Hardcoregamers will be drawn to the Xbox 360 while the average gamer will go for the PS3. Everyone knows that the ps3 will sell more but also everyone knows that the 360 will out perform the ps3. and BTW they have not released a price on either ps3 or the 360 but expect them to be between 399 USD and 499 USD.

you guys are all talking about the processors this and the processors that but thats not what its about. its about titles on the system. xbox 360will have halo 3 about when the ps3 launches and i havnt heard any really good titles for the ps3 yet. i think nintendo may even take out sony this time with a new mario or a metriod

Gran Turismo 5

nintendo has no chance of competing with the new consoles. With it's kid approach and lack of groundbreaking franchises, they have already confirmed their downfall. Ps3 has the amazing new kill zone and more gran turismoes x360 has several franchises to work with plus the best online power ever

Jeeze it's a fanboy orgy in here. At least I can say that the Xbox fanboys have good arguments, the PS fanboys can't even write at a 5th grade level. I guess we know the demographics Xbox: 16+ higher than a 90 IQ, PS: 15- Lower than 75 IQ, you crazy bunch of window lickers. I've played the Xbox AND the PS2 and when the Xbox 360 comes out I'll probably sell the PS2 and games for it. It has better games, better programers and more cutting edge design ideas. Not only that but Microsoft has said the xbox won't go over $399, but that they want the price to "be affordable enough to have one in every household." Last but not least San Andreas is coming to xbox this month you tard, even though thats an insult to the intelligence of tards.

I believe that the Xbox 360 is going to be a milestone in video gaming. And I hope that Andrew is right about the starting price of the 360. I myself have not heard all that many details about the 360 but from what i have heard, there will be one in my living room. I hope that they are started at a pretty reasonable price. I knoew that i didn't even get
an Xbox until about a year or so ago. But i can tell already that the Xbox 360 wont disappoint me.

People bragging about how good the 360 is are hypocrites. The Microsoft press conference had absolutely nothing, but a bunch of talk and pretty trailers. Even though the PS3 is coming out later then the 360 the SONY press conference showed real live time demos of what to expect for the next gen console. While the only thing Microsoft had was talk about reaching a billion people and how good there console was with just pretty trailers and no realtime demonstration of its features, is there some major problem with the Xbox 360 that they can't show real live demos! Who wants a console that will become obsolete within 3 to 6 months of its release, when SONY will redefine for ever what true high definition gaming is about and blow the Xbox 360 out of the water.

ps3 may have the best graphics, but graphics mean less than the quality of the games. Xbox 360 will have Halo 3 which shall chop sonys lead, but not over take it. Sony has enough good games and a big fan base for xbox to stop. Nintendo will stink because they are stuck in the past and won't appeal to any new gamers over 10

Seriously though, X-Box 360 has its good points dont get me wrong, but focusing too much on the online aspect makes me think that Microsoft is trying to push the system to become more like its cousin the PC. Also it feels asthough they are doing it to suck more money out of the poor gamers of the world. I may be biast but im sticking with PS3 because its main purpose is and hopefully will stay GAMES. I guess we'll see in 2006-2007. NINTENDO REVOLUTION??!?!?!? I love the idea I'm going to buy the system just to play the games fromt he past 20 years. PS3 it top 4 me.

Hey guys, i have two systems (x box and gamecube) and the sweet thing about the revoultion is that it's going to be able to play every game ever made for nintendo. That includes starfox, all zeldas, super mario bros. and even the old duck hunt. It's going to be possible because youre going to download them onto discs so they can be playable I know that they're old, but without nintendo, we wouldn't have and x box or playstation. The Playstation is going to have more gamesas well as a bigger fan base, but i dont think that there going to be better than 360. I also heard that the 360 isn't going to be able to play the old games.They'll have to make the old ones again. They said that in a confrence at E3 by the way. The reason that ps3 is releasing it late is to do what happened to the dreamcast. Plain and simple. The price from what i heard is going to be $300 base and with the hard drive and controller, 400. The ps3 is going to be around 300-400 and the revolution is going to be 250-300. IM going with the 360 with hard drive and the revolution (i want duck hunt again)

I look at it like this both the 360 and ps3 are going to be good, it just that Sony is going to wait and see how the 360 does on the market and add features & any re-design as they see fit. It would be nice it the spec were secret and both units hit the market at the same time. Besides from the time the ps3 hit the market the 360 may have upgrades added to it for another release?

"People bragging about how good the 360 is are hypocrites. The Microsoft press conference had absolutely nothing, but a bunch of talk and pretty trailers. Even though the PS3 is coming out later then the 360 the SONY press conference showed real live time demos of what to expect for the next gen console. While the only thing Microsoft had was talk about reaching a billion people and how good there console was with just pretty trailers and no realtime demonstration of its features, is there some major problem with the Xbox 360 that they can't show real live demos! Who wants a console that will become obsolete within 3 to 6 months of its release, when SONY will redefine for ever what true high definition gaming is about and blow the Xbox 360 out of the water."

Sony has 0 playable demos as of right now. Microsoft has many more. Sony is making a big mistake releasing thier console late and over priced. I have both consoles and I play the xbox way more. The X360 may not out sell the PS but just because the volkswagen beetle is the most sold car does not mean its the best car.

The farther this things go the more they seem to turn into a normal pc with a controller. With live gaming in high demand what are the chances of getting a virus on these things? It happened for smart phones so I'm just curious if its likely to happen to game consoles.

aw man.

Features of Xbox 360:
Wireless controllers

Features of PS3:
?

Carry on...

"Too bad Windows doesn't support PPCs, or else I'd buy one to hack it and use as a nice PC for $300."

The XBox 360 can run old XBox games and the old games used the Pentium 3 processor.

In order for the XBox to run the old games it has to have on of two things (a) a software converter to convert the old XBox games in Wintel format to the PPC format or (b) a Power PC chip specially designed to run the Wintel code.

I'm betting it is the latter as the former would require a lot of processing power (not that it doesn't have enough) and the game designers have to code the games differently Also, why haven't we seen the PPC chip on Macs yet? Because it probably only runs Wintel code

OK, so Sony runs out the Gate with GT5, but Forza was so much better, especially for it's FIRST attempt in the industry. The second iteration should blow GT away completely, like a Vette sucking th doors off some rice.

My 360 is pre-ordered, and I will have mine at midnight the night it comes out. By co-incidence, my new HD-TV will appear that same day. Also, my employer can kiss off for a week or so.

I agree with anonymous. Xbox 360 isn't adding anything, bill gates just wants your money.

Xbox 360 is adding a ton of functions; PS3 is adding a ton of functions Xbox is so fast that everything will load in the blink of an eye; PS3 is faster Xbox has Halo and will soon catch up with Final Fantasy. PS3 has the most games out of any system. XBOX is fully customizable with faceplates and unique user interfaces; Sony?s box looks pretty cool as well. Microsoft is a huge software conglomerate; Sony is a huge hardware conglomerate. Just so that you know the processing power between the two, though large wont be noticeable by humans. Only by electronic benchmarks will anyone know that one?s faster than the other. To say that one with ?rule? the other is just ignorance. It will be a pretty even fight. To say that one will ?die? out is incredibly ignorant considering both of them are owned by technology giants. To say that Nintendo ?sucks? is ignorant because they are the ones that popularized the console gaming industry and there will always be those people (weather you like it or not) who pay respect to the originator. Also incase you haven?t noticed, Nintendo is focusing on a younger audience, so perhaps most of you here aren?t in the age range of Nintendo. I do think its sad that with Sega gone as a console developer and Nintendo on the bottom of the market, the days of console companies are really over. Now you?re all just buying from these huge companies that are just interested in making the most powerful entertainment machine in the world. The fact is: all of these consoles are powerful enough to support another five years of gaming. All of the consoles have great new features all of the consoles have software coming out for them that will sell no matter what. I think it?s funny how people complain about either system when they both have problems. Yeah Xbox requires XP media center, but can PS3 hook up to regular XP or Media Center? The price on either of them? Ridiculous. No one should pay that much but everyone will. Tons of people will pay. $300? No problem. $400? Just let me get my checkbook. Money isn?t an issue. You?re all just arguing over personal preference. You can look at market figures and tell which one will sell more according to which one has a larger fan base and such, but that doesn?t ascertain which one is better. You can also talk about processing power, that certainly doesn?t matter past a point. You can talk about software and online abilities and you know it doesn?t matter past a point. I own every system from the Intelivsion and Atari to Xbox and PS2 and I?ve discovered that it?s all a matter of personal preference.

Yeah, I agree with the guy above me. There should be no reason at all for any new video game system to come out in the next 5-10 years because of the sheer power of all the systems that are comming out within the next year. All three are backwards compatible (although possibly not all X-Box games will be, but the important ones will, and that's enough. I don't want to play a lousy game like Fusion Frenzy on the next gen stuff, some stuff just isn't worth saving) Any atempt at releasing a new console should make us (the consumer) re-think our buying strategy, and realize we are all getting f'd over.

Is there going to be any release of a star wars obi-wan 2 for Xbox or Xbox 360?

personally i hope that both the ps3 and xbox 360 do well in the markets. The last thing I want is for either one to dominate the market because then the console market would turn into what the pc operating system market is today and that is a monoply. Microsoft with windows has nothing to worry about with the lack of good completion in the operating system market so it keeps releaseign crap operating systems that haven't been properly tested like XP. If the 360 does end up dominating the market then microsoft wouldn't push innovation and progression in technology the way it is now. I want both systems to live and make money so that way both will push themselves to new levels to gaming. In the end we the gamers get better games and consoles through the competition of microsoft and sony than through the domination of a single system. So lets relax. Whatever your preference may be there both great systems. Also I hope the revolution does decent enough because it would be a shame to see nintendo who was the company that started home consoles in my eyes to fall. They did develop some fanastic games over the years.

Kill Zone 2 Was Prerendered out of a PC not PS3
They Showed us nothing of its power
Everything is cg
Graphics is not every thing, is how fun the game ur palying is. Gears of Wars is going to be the best Along with Halo 3 which will sell more than PS3. Thats sad

When is the Xbox 360's release date?

Anyone here that says either the xbox or ps3 will, or does for that matter (when each console isnt even released yet) "suck" truly have no gaming/computing knowledge whatsoever.

You guys need another hobby/interest, this gaming/computing one is obviosly too much for you to handle (or even understand for that matter).

I agree the Xbox 360 will be a great system and I'm going to buy it when it comes out,but from what i've read about all three new systems the PS3 is the most advanced system. On gamespot Epic president of Unreal fame said the PS3 was easy to develop for and game developers have been saying for some time the Ps3 is the most powerful system I don't know about you but when the developers speak i tend to listen and take heed.

For the people worried about cost neither Sony or microsoft are really worried about making a profit off of hardware,software is where they really make their money.since the Atari days new systems have debuted at 300$ I don't beleive that will change.As for game quality Only in the past year have more than handful of xbox games been considered good.Sony has been shipping good games since it's release.I'd like someone to name more than 10 exclusive xbox games that are really good and the PC counts. Kinda hard isn't it. now The PS2. you could name 30 without thinking hard. Before the only thing the xbox had over the PS2 was a built in HD faster hardware and a better online infastructure. With the Exception of maybe Xbox Live Sony has negated all of Micro's advantages and still has better games not to mention more choices.you do the math

Just for proof. Forza,Ninja Gaiden, Chronicles of Riddick RTBB, Unreal Campionship2 The Liandri Conflit,Crimson Skies,Panzer Dragoon Orta,Jade Empire,Halo2 any other good exclusives?PS2 Tekken Series,GT Series, Twisted Metal Black,God of War,Virtua Fighter series,Final Fantasy series, Jak series,Rachet and Clank series,Suikoden series,Rayman,Smackdown, Dark Cloud,Socom, Ace Combat, Zone of Enders, Champions of Norrath. The List goes on. For those who love the xbox and wouldn't touch a Sony System I suggest you pray that everyone at sony decides they don't like making money or good games. For now it looks Microsoft will have to be Robin to Sony's Batman for another 6-10 years unless nintendo pulls a fastball then they'll end up as Batgirl. No offense Ladies :)

Oh and Killzone 2 was Rendered Realtime says so on Gamespot. People should be more objective when comparing these systems then instead of being fanboys(or girls) they'd be well informed consumers and even if you have your favorites Sony didn't sell 90 million PS2's for nothing and don't blame their head start they had only sold 3 million before the xbox came out ouch.

the real deal. The new nintendo will have the weekest graphics power but the controller will be unique and the system affordable. The xbox and ps3 will have very similiar chips because the same companies are building them, expect to spend a lot of money. The ps3 will win for power. It also will feature dual diplays. The 360 will have a lot of great looking games because microsoft has set standards for all the games, HD, surround sound, etc. Sony games my not look all that great until developers get used to it. xbox 360 will rule the online game arena. If you like nintendo, you will be happy with the games and system.

May I have an answer please?

Nah.

I think it is funny how the PS3 is built so much around floating point performance when very little of that is handled by the CPU (it is now usually the domain of the GPU). Also, does it matter how much info. your system can crunch if it's bandwidth is so small it won't make a difference anyway (sorry, PS3)? On the other hand, Sony is an advertising machine with a large game library and huge fan base, and that is precisely why it will still make great sales. But, if you value overall system performance over the choice of 1,000+ games (many of which probably suck anyway), just by the XBox 360.

Star Wars Obi-Wan: Best Star Wars game for Xbox.

Xbox 360 is definantly the better contender it has an ati graphics card, removeable hard drive, halo 3 and built in wireless controler ports. the only thing ps3 has going for them is killzone 2 evan then the first one didn't come close to the origonal halo so what makes you ps3 fans thimk the 2nd will do any better. not to mention the new xbox controlers skick to the faithful s design. these ps3 controlers look like boomerangs very gay. if any serious gamer wants the best console get the xbox 360 you will not regret.

X_BOX 360 kicks sony plastations ass PLaystation sucks

does the xbox 360 play old xbox games

X box 360 suck ass
ps3 will kill it

Both Rock, even though there are some differences. The Cons and Pros from my view is this.

Xbox Good:

Multifunctionability menu
4 ports
System Link
Well Made Online compatibility
Good gaming list
HD quality

Xbox Bad:

Only 4 Wireless ports
Some weaker components
Only can switch the frontplate
Memory input on front

PS3 Good:

Plays all PS games
7 Wireless Controller ports
Good Game Lineup
Online Compatibility
HD quality
Supports New CD types

PS3 Bad:
Comes out later
Not well advertised

the only thing i want right now is xbox 360, my first xbox broke because i screwed it up and i believe xbox 360 will destroy sony

I have to say a few things.

The single core cell processor of the does seem to have some nice features. And in the PS3's corner I would have to say that its 2 Tflops of floating point computations is a nice touch. However, this is not practicle for a gaming system. Combine that with the fact that it will only be using 7 of the 9 processing units on the core (not to mention the fact that the core will have to use the same memory bus for each processor unit), and the limitations of each unit's memory usage, I think you will find that it's general processing power pails in comparison to the Xbox360.

360 has a triple hyperthreaded core. That means that each core has 2 cpu's and each core would by default have individual memory bus'. What does this mean? Faster execution. Even if it only has 6 processing units (compared to the 7 of the PS3), it will still be able to utilize 3 bus's to execute it's instructions. 1 TFLOP of floating point execution is more than enough for any console for the next 3 years.

The graphics seem to be on par with each other though. even though the ps3 nvidia runs 50MHz faster than the ATI for 360, the ATI chip deals with MSAA much much better, runs cooler AND with ATI's mastery chipset features, the ATI GPU will outperform the Nvidia GPU (but just slightly).

The ps3 does have a 2 things that I can think of that may be the factor in decisions. Bluetooth (enable 7 controllers instead of 4) and it's 1080p feature for HDTV (but how many people really have 1080p on their TV's?).

Last I heard, the PS3's HD was TBA... So i don't know where the data is on it's size. BUT having said that, the 360's HD is UPGRADEABLE, should you need it. This is truely a good thing.

The PS3 games will be like the ps2 in quality game play. Very poor. Xbox has had good innovative games, but sony seems to be making the same game over and over again, and giving it new graphics and a new name. No wonder it has so many titles.

In the end, my vote is for the 360. It will run faster, cooler, and have better graphics. And it will have quake 4 :D

I would like to add that I have taken to calling the PS3 an amoeba (a single celled organism)

Michael Schumacher will win the Canadian GP. And the US GP at Indy. BTW, is there any formula one games coming out for Xbox soon?

I agree with Zaebos.

Power is not everything. You could have the best of everything but still have crappy games *im not pointing at anything*. At the same time you could have a crappy system but have the best games *ie N64 w/ Zelda*. I will be buying an Xbox 360 for H3 and any other game I would like. To me, the PS3 is just going to run VERY hot with 7 cores on a single chip. Anywase wtf are you goign to use a terraflop and a half of floating points for?!?

In conclusion, buy what you want but I will be buying a X360 *and the new Revolution, I make a point of buying every other Nintendo council, NES N64, and now the Revolution(who hoo! backwards capabilities with all Nintendo games... MORE THAN THE PS3!)*

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 02:13 PM (PST)
xbox isnt really adding anything because bill gates just wants all your money

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uh.... so does Sony... I mean.... that's what a bussiness is all about! Making money!

aight for everyones clarity. PS3: better processing/graphics. 360: more online options, online gaming is going to be free, gold membership will cost extra but it won't matter for quality of gaming. Second PS3 has 8, 1 terabyte threads Xbox has 3, 1.8 threads. So its actually 5.4 to 8, not 3 to 8. Thirdly, nobody from sony can boast they sold more games, xbox sold more games and had better overall sales. Why? Mostly because they produced better games Halo, Dead or Alive, Ninja Gaiden, Counter-Strike. If Xbox 360 manages to clinch the market before PS3 then it will have alot of trouble catching up. Yes PS2 had more games and a wider variety, but 3/4 of them blew. Spyro? Crash Bandawhatever? 9 million racing games. And sidenote on the Killzone 2 demo, Sony has neither denied or confirmed if it was prerendered or actual gameplay, so basically their silence is saying prerendered, which graphics like those are similar to dead or alive 3 cut scene graphics from the first Xbox. Last and not least XBox 360 is boasting a massive array of games for launch or soon after launch titles, and many people are unwilling to buy two systems and due to the greed of todays society, unwilling to wait. And to the guy that said the PSP rules. Yeah sure right, thats why sales are terrible and they are Sony knows it. Read it on CNN. Im not denying the PS3 will not be a better machine, but timing, software, online universe might leave PS3 down. Not to mention the highest selling game of all time (Halo 2)'s sequel is rumored to come out the same day as the PS3. I seem to remember mobs of people waiting outside of stores for hours to get one. A million copies in a week or something like that.
I enjoy Nintendo as well. Its affordable and though most of its games are geared toward younger audiences, games like Super Smash Brothers and Resident Evil 4 appeal to the older gaming crowd as well.

edit "I am not denying that PS3 will be a better machine"

I don kno how u people are dissin freakin xbox this is only its second system give em time PS3 has a fanbase true but xbox will come out on top u watch they juss geting warmed up at least its not as big as last xboxs system Halo 3 end of story.......

I told everyone that michael schumacher would win at Indianapolis, and what a win it was!! Well done, Herr Schumacher.

Don't reply then, be that way. HRMPH.

I WANT THE XBOX 360 and upgrade the harddrive op to 100+GB since its only $100 or so

will xbox 360 be able to system link to xbox1 in halo2? do u have to go wirless to stream meadia like music or can i use a 4 port wired router

system link with xbox and 360 sounds cool
ps3 has no balls i know a lot about the specs ps3 might be faster but 360 has more horsepower snd the memory bandwith! kiss my ass sony

x-box 360 is gold compared to that ps3 junk. the only reason i would buy ps3 is to waiste money!(lots)

Play PC games

PC will always rein as the best system.

Ok ok rant on peeps...fact is wall street (the vegas oddsmakers in this area) are calling for XBOX 360 to capture 32% of the next gen market versus 18% with today xbox. That's a joke - 360 is a lock down for at least half the market with all that's going for it - especially the long line of developers (including Japaneese) signed up. PS3 will win the war? maybe - but MS wins huge with a crappy 1/3 of the market. Timing and gamelineup is everything. PSP is learning that lesson hard atm - sorry Sony - you rocked in 2003 but forget the next 3 years.

PC is upgradeable = best gaming platform

if you don't care about playing exclusive console titles, PC beats both hands down - loading times/detail etc - plus you can do other things than just play games.....when all the hype has worn off after the release date, I'll bet one day I will be reading the same old tired posts about "Xbox kicking PS's butt" etc when the PS 10 and the Xbox72000 are released.

back in the day my parents wanted me to be the unique kid on the block... thus I got a SEGA. Boo hoo. This caused me to concentrate my gaming to true kb based computers for there gaming freedom. Somehow I bought a SNES and a Game Doctor to copy the games... Pretty cool stuff back in '93 to have 200+ games on floppy disks. But back to my point... since 94 I have not invested in any console system since... But seeing the Xbox*360 might make me a new console owner. I still wonder how people can play FPS with no mouse? Where is the accuracy? Seeing all these posts of people that have obviously not seen much keyboard action goes to show there IQ. Will the new Halo for the Xbox*360 support a external mouse for aim? Ohh but wait... why bother I have a computer to play COD and good old tribes.

tribes egor, you know it ahah,shazbot..
msn sucks. so it would be ps3 with me ,but then what do i know?, i have owned neither of those systems myself. gamecube baby. come get some:zelda 2
and a few games of tribes on the side. !!

hahahaha yup .. i would rather know what is going to happen with link, the triforce,and hyrule than i am like too overly concerned with how large bill gate's nuts are ,and the last time they have needed scratching from itchy ball syndrome.

I hope that Rockstar goes with Sony and microsoft makes A GTA for both because that would be so bigggg.Im going to hav to go with the Xbox because it is wayyy cheaper i mean..500$!?!!!?for a gaming system fuck that.But u cant compete with GTA baby its series is way to strong!

Is there seriously a different realise date for canadians? That sucks eh?

I just setup a Pluto Home system (smarthome + media server, plutohome.com, free open source). It?s really cool. It has a streaming movie server, music server, pvr. Plus it does home automation and controls a/v equipment too. There?s only 1 problem?

You designate 1 PC to be the server; they call it the core. It exposes a network boot image for any other PC in the house, so your PC becomes dual purpose?normal pc, or net boot and it?s a set top box. You control it with Bluetooth mobile phones or web pads. And all the set top boxes in the house work together. Your media even follows you as you move from room to room if you keep the phone on. The problem is I don?t have enough media pc?s for all the rooms in my house, and buying a full PC for each room is too expensive. Plus there?s no video cards for the PC that have component video output?which is the only way I can get HDTV into my tv.

The X-Box seems perfect as a media director. It?s a PC inside, right? So why couldn?t it boot like normal as an Xbox, or net boot as a pluto media director? Then it would be part of a whole house solution that did everything. I could even use the Xbox to turn on my sprinklers if I wanted, and do all sorts of stuff with it. Plus, since Pluto gives it a network boot image, space is no longer an issue?all the software could be stored on the main server. And the XBox has component video and it?s quiet and cheap.

Does anybody have an idea if it would be possible to use the XBox as a media director like that, doing a network boot? Then I could just buy a few of the XBox?s rather than having to buy regular PC?s.

"Who eva likes xbox 360 iz a fagg suk on a dik bone bych iz PS3 ****AAAAAA fa lyfe n we bomb on u wit ta blu ray dik u ain gettin no ware wit hd-dvd bych u dik ridein ****s sony bych girlzzzzz i wanna fukkk!"

well done, you made up my mind for me. I'm getting an xbox 360 despite the stupid name.

alright, im really confused now. some people are saying that x360 will be able to play all xbox games. some say that x360 will be able to play some xbox games. some are saying that x360 won't be able to play any xbox games. Which one is it!?

im with you tenchi

That processing power thing with ps3 is not what people will go for. It's how fun the games are and how cool the console is. It's made by Microsoft anyways. Microsoft knows a thing or two about software.

When does the xbox 360 come out my friend thinks it comes out in this November of 2005.,. will someone answer my question

please this is an emergency and the faster u get to me the better how much will the game cost because we dont have that much money and I dont think any one else has enough money to buy the system and the games if they are 59.99$

Walmart leaked that xbox 360 will be out Novermber 4th and be priced a 299. I've also read that sony is hinting at a 500 dollars price tag.

Walmart leaked that xbox 360 will be out Novermber 4th and be priced a 299. I've also read that sony is hinting at a 500 dollars price tag. Also the Xbox 360 will be able to play xbox games. If you would like to know the prices of the new xbox360 games Walmart has them already listed on the web-site

xbox has memory and will save your game as you play- with ps you have to spend $20-30 just to buy a memory card to save your play- which doesn't even hold that much space, how lame is that???

Nintendo is gonna come out ahead of Sony this time

the 360 and Nintendo might be a close draw to which is better this time, but Sony is still gonna such (maybe not as much as last time) Me and my dad have combined all three systems and we haven't used the PS2 almost at all since we've had all three. THE GAMES JUST SUCK

halo 3 is going to hurt sony pretty bad. i heard they are going to release halo 3 when PS3 comes out.

personally i am definetley buying the xbox 360 when it comes out. i love halo, what else is there to say?

i really like how versatile my xbox is.... it does alot more stuff than the ps2! props to microsoft for that.

my biggest problem is disc read errors.... take note Microsoft/X-Box.... I DO NOT WANT DISC READ ERRORS AND I DONT WANT IT TO SCRATCH MY DISCS. other than that, i heart xbox.

xbox 360 will be my dream gome true as i am a goomba head gamer(hardcore)free xbox live man!im getting ghost recon 3 straight away.

P.S

Nintendo is for 8 yr old kids who can only get past the EASY setting on all games. oh, and nintendo wouldnt know a good game if it crawled up their a*r*s*e and forced them into orgasm.

If I only could buy one system between all three, it would be PS3 with XBOX 360 as a close second. Nintendo needs to do something about their controller situation, and im sorry Microsoft but HALO blows! Socom is where its at so shut your lips.

The PS3 does not exist yet. The only part of it that actually exists is the GPU which is below the standard of the 360 GPU. The processor kind of exists, but is still being worked on. The 8 core processor will only use 7 cores - this is because if one of the cores turns out to be faulty at manufacturing time, the chip can still be sold. SONY WILL BE SELLING FAULTY CHIPS!!! Sony's bus architecture on the motherboard is sub standard that of the 360. The Sony demo's at E3 were prerendered tech demos - they will only look like that in theory!! The demos for the 360 were run on a 360. Sony are getting themselves in deep shit over this one as they are making many promises that they can't live up to. Microsoft have shipped over 1000 developer kits to game developers, Sony have shipped 16 for the PS3.

Sony are phukked

way too much money ps3 is better is halo3 going to come out on ps3

you know what's super ghetto...Microsoft prices an xbox at $400 with all these fancy accessories...but has anyone ever thought how much people will have to spend on batteries for the wireless controllers? Oh...and who the hell is gonna carry around a massive hard drive to their friends house to play games? The whole xbox itself is a complete rip off and unknown to consumers, we're stupid enough to fall for all these "amazing graphics" that will probably be no better than the graphics on the original xbox games on hi def.

actually you can recharge the batterys via usb port on the back and continue playing, nifty eh? Microsoft knows whats going on they are not like sony.

Let me clarify that last one about battery recharge. There is a re-chargeable battery pack, which plugs into the controller to recharge the batteries while playing. Any time the batteries run low, a signal will appear on the screen indicating they're about to go, and so you can plug in the re-charger and continuously keep playing. Allard said that the in-box wires initially will be component/composite, using about five RCA jacks off one cord, with a switch to go either way, with AV packs like the current Xbox cables.
Microsoft for life

just saw the trailer for test drive unlimited.....all i can say is..amazing!

can we play the old x box games on the
x box 360?

witch is better xbox or ps go to ageeksmind.blogspot.com and find out witch one is the best.

course Halo 3 wont come out on PS3, Microsoft aren't going to give up the best game they have yo there biggest rivals.

no-one in there right mind is going to buy the $300 360 and its beyond me why m$ bothered. i noticed with the last console the price was the same here in england so were gonna get screwed over at ?400. thats more than $600 dollars for fuck sake.

The PS3 will cost more as its got more expensive components.

U guyz R da dumbest stupidest Jackasses ever!!!!! PS3 ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! better graphics, better games, more power and better everything. The only avantage that xbox 360 has over PS3 is the memory and (maybe) the online play. Everything else, PS3 kills the xbox 360 at.

U guyz R da dumbest stupidest Jackasses ever!!!!! PS3 ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! better graphics, better games, more power and better everything. The only avantage that xbox 360 has over PS3 is the memory and (maybe) the online play. Everything else, PS3 kills the xbox 360 at.

James Ricardo shut the hell up after you commented about the batteries recharging via USB.

Whaaaaa. Thats the sound a baby makes. PS3'ers are the baby's. Whaaaa WHAAAAAAAAAA!!!

will you be able to play xbox one games on the xbox 360?I hope so because i have a lot of games on xbox.

i used to have a gamecube a ps2 and xbox then i got my pc sold my xbox and cube (cube suxs) ps2 broke typicle of sony i thought xbox won but i preferred the ps2 cause of final fantasy :0 by the way does anyone know if ff12 is coming out on the pc

CUBE ROCKS MAN!

Sorry but you wont be able to play old xbox games on the new xbox360 because it is a PPC CPU based console.

Think of it as: Can I play Windows games on my Apple? Well no you cant unless the game is recoded in PPC format.

You will have to rebuy the 'recoded' old titles in order to play on the new xbox360.

xbox sucks cok!
PS3 kills the 360!

Being a owner of PS2 i still say that xbox is a way better system. I love playing halo.

I'm glad that final fantasy is coming to xbox. I know several people that will switch to xbox fans cause of that.

you are all nerds

it uses 2 dif cpus so it can play xbox games without the new coding bulshit. it is a multi cor processor come on do u think the richest company in da world is going to overlook that. dipshit

Andrew you the nerd

XBOX 360!!! IT ROKS ps3 is going down!!!!! i have a XBXO and am surely getting XBOX 60 simply beacause PS3 suks And 360 graphics rok etc.. etc..

How about you all grow up and shut up over who is better. They both will be great and you all know it. Just choose your system to tailer your style of playing , hand size for controller use and your style games. Both systems will have alot of the same games will small diffrences and both will have exclusive great games that will get awsome reviews. So you can have good fun with both. Only advantage either of them have over each other when you really talk about it is xbox will be first so that we can enjoy it earlier. But ps3 will have more time to refine and not make the same mistakes microsoft may in the launch. We will see.. :)